National Geographic against Romania and Bulgaria
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July 23, 2009
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Genographic Project National Geographic against Romania and Bulgaria. Real people from Romania. Genetics, Y chromosome I I1b haplogroup people. Andreea Marin, Stefan Banica, Mircea Badea, Mihaela Radulescu, Dan Bordeianu,Adela Popescu,Ilie Amalia Nastase, Plaboy, Ion Tiriac, Ileana Lazariuc, Marius Moga, Adi Mutu, Alexandra Dinu, Luminita Anghel. … Romania Bulgaria People Bucuresti Sofia haplogroup I1b Balkans Genographic Project Badea Banica Radulescu Marin Mutu …


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9:31 pm on July 23rd, 2009
Deoarece dupa ce am postat acest film pe youtube, National Geografic a retras de pe pagina lor poza acelei persoane ce nu apartinea haplogrupului I, haplogrup tipic pentru Romania, dar care dadea impresia ca Romania ar fi locuita de tigani, declar ca scopul acestui film a fost atins. Voi bloca posibilitatea de a mai pune comentarii la acest film, deoarece m-am plictisit sa raspund mesajelor postate de diferiti formatori de opinie, platiti de interese anti-romanesti.
1:32 am on July 27th, 2009
Tu la ce ONG lucrezi? Chiar atat de prost esti incat nu ti-ai gasit si tu o meserie mai normala, decat meseria de propagandist de doi lei pe net? Tiganii nu sunt romi, jigodie, ci sunt indieni din Punjabi, veniti in Europa acum foarte multe sute de ani. Termenul de romi, a fost inventat pt tigani de niste jeguri rasiste asa *** esti si tu, care vor sa creeze confuzie intre romani si tigani, si sa ii trimita pe toti tiganii din Europa de Vest in Romania.
8:35 am on July 30th, 2009
Mai Andrada . Nu esti altceva decat o ramasita plina de rasism . In primul rand rrom si nu tigan. Mergi si citeste ce inseamna TIGAN . Cat despre romani , cunoastem. Cand este frumos si bun , este roman . Stricat si urat , este tigan . Sincer , oameni ca tine nu fac decat sa inrautateasca imaginea tarii. Noi suntem romani , dar de etnie rroma. Avem o cultura si limba pe care speram sa le pastram ( daca gadjii ca tine nu ne pun bete in roate )
2:55 pm on August 2nd, 2009
Draga barro27, pe tine te omoara in schimb prostia. Pe Banica junior l-am trecut la romani, pt ca e cel putin jumate roman. Taica-su, o fi fost tigan dupa *** zici, dar maica-sa e romanca. Oricum, asa *** in America devii american in 5 ani, cred ca si in Romania ai dreptul sa devii roman dupa ce ai stat aici sute de ani, vorbesti limba romana, ai si sange romanesc si te mai si consideri roman pe deasupra. Daca el se considera roman si este perfect integrat in societate, il consider si eu.
5:18 pm on August 5th, 2009
Draga Andrada . Nationalismul te omoara . Am observat ca printre bravii romani ,l-ai trecut si pe Stefan Banica . *** ai putut gresi ..intre atatia romani . Daca cumva nu stiai tatal lui , Stefan Banica senior era de etnie rroma . Norocul nostru ca nu sunt multe persoana ca tine ,altfel toata comunitatea roma si nu numai..ar fi fost exterminata
3:37 pm on August 8th, 2009
4. I don’t know my haplogroup, since I am a woman and I don’t have the Y chromosome. But I know exactly how the people from my familly look like, and they look typicaly from the Balkan are. For you to say that I can not about haplogroups only because I am a girl, or only because I don’t know which is mine, is just stupid, because that means all the scientists in the world are not allowed to talk about other haplogroups, because they belong to just one haplogroup.
2:22 pm on August 11th, 2009
Answer to your points:1. I never say Croatians are Romanians, I said that only people from the Balkans who belong to the I haplogroup are Romanians. 2. Romanians do not belong only to the I haplogroup, just like any other people do not belong only to one haplogroup. But in Romania the majority of the people belong to IJ haplogroup, which was formed around the Black Sea and who is typical for the ancient inhabitans of the Balkan area, for the THRACIANS. 3. I never said what you claim.
1:26 pm on August 13th, 2009
Ok, so this will be my final comment.
1. Croatians are not Romanians.
2. Romanians do not belong just to haplogroup I
3. You are arguing the point that all Romanians are from this halpogroup which is wrong.
4. You don’t know your own haplogroup, so you could be arguing the point without even belonging to this haplogroup.
It’s that simple.
1:28 am on August 15th, 2009
you put many comments at my movie, but without saying anything. What is your point? The DNA tests proved to you that the Bosnians and Romanians are the same race of people. What exactly is not clear for you? Secondly- Bosnians are 48% of the 4.5 milion people from Bosnia. let’s say, Bosnians are 3 million people. Romanians are about 26 milion people. Romanians kept their identity because they were more numerous and they were the heart of the Thracian kingdom.
11:18 pm on August 15th, 2009
rogerstan- what exactly do you want to prove?What is your point?
My point is that all the people who have the I haplogorup belong to the ancient Balkanic race names THRACIANS, so, they are ROMANIANS who lost their true identity. The Bosnians are not SLAVS, because they have the I haplgroup, while the Slavs have the R1a.
In Bosnia 70% of the people belong to the I haplogroup,which means they are THRACIANS also.
3:23 am on August 18th, 2009
78% of Romanians are not I2a! while only 30% of Bosnian Croats are not I2a. You could have tested your father to work out what you are in terms of y-chromosome genetics. So, again you should not argue the point until you have proof of membership.
11:58 pm on August 18th, 2009
What about typing “AROMANIANS in BOSNIaA” or to type “frisian ROMANIA” and you will gone find alot about the subject. Even on wikipedia you will find that Bosnia was inhabited before the Slavs came in the area, and all those people inhabiting,had Thracian roots, which means were Romanians. I am a girl, not a man, so I do not have a Y chromosome.
5:32 am on August 19th, 2009
Really? I typed ” Romanian origins of Bosnians” into google and found absolutely NOTHING about the subject. You have not answered my question about your own testing. What haplogroup do you belong to? Have you ever been tested?
1:34 am on August 22nd, 2009
Thirdly- before the Slavs came , the majority of the people inhabiting the Balkan area were speaking ROMANIAN language. After the Slavs came, people were separated, and their languages started to become dialects of the Romanian language, just like Istro-Romana, Megleno-Romana etc. In time, this people were forced to speak Bulgarian, Serbian and they were forced to consider themselv other races than they really were. Modern Bosnian are Romanians by blood, Slavs as language, Muslim as religion.
7:24 am on August 25th, 2009
Seconldy- the Bosnians are assimilated Romanians, because they are the same race as the Romanians, but they speak a SLAVIC language. The Slavic language was imposed to the Balkanic people, from foreign elites who ruled the area. 10 thousands years ago, people who inhabited Bosnia, were not speaking a Slavic language. Before the Slavs came in the area, the people of Bosnia were speaking Romanian language. After the Slavs came, they were separated by the rest of Romanians.
1:17 pm on August 26th, 2009
First of all, rogerstan- the oldest places inhabitted by a civilized group of people, is not Bosnia, but it is the Valley of the Danube, a place which is today in Romania or in those areas inhabited by Romanians in Serbia/Bulgaria= Timok Valley. People formed in this area, and from here spread North and South, in Bosnia, Bulgaria, Greece, Ukraina etc.
11:37 pm on August 26th, 2009
rogerstan- your logic is out of order. If in Austria there are places with Croatian names, that means those places were inhabited by Croatians at some point. If you look at the history or DNA test, you will find out if those Austrians are assimilated Croatians or not.
4:15 am on August 27th, 2009
This doesn’t prove a thing. There are places in Austria with Croatian names that does not mean that the Austrians are assimilated Croats! The West Balkans was a refuge during the last glacial maximum for peoples all over Europe at the time. They dispersed after the the LGM to other regions of Europe including Romania not the other way around. Anyway, I would not make a blanket claim to this Haplogroup personally unless you have been tested. I know that I am I1b.
10:13 pm on August 28th, 2009
Rogerstan, if the Bosnians, who genetically are the same people with the Romanians, are not assimilated Romanians, please, explaine us why in Bosnia there are still mountans called Romania, places have Romanian names, and still many people speak a dialect of the Romanian language? FYI- all the people of the Balkans who belong to the I haplogroup, are the same race as Romanians, and they are descendants of the ancient race who inhabitted the Balkan area- the THRACIANS.
7:08 am on September 1st, 2009
Bosnian Croats have the highest Haplogroup I in the world at 70% even higher than the Scandinavians. To say that Croats are assimilated Romanians is complete madness. This haplogroup originated in modern day Bosnia 20,000 years ago and is still found in the original population there so there were no migrations from Romania. Go to Wikkipeadia and read what is says about this.
8:07 am on September 4th, 2009
The Croatians have about 40% of I haplgroup, because those Croatians are actually Romanians, while the rest 60% are even Slavs- R1a, even Germans-R1b. So, the local people of Croatia were the ROMANIANS, but Slavs and Germans came and occupied the Romanians lands and forced the Romanians to change their identity and to consider themselves as being Croatians. But history and DNA shows the truth.
11:54 am on September 4th, 2009
Dear, paranoia is only in your head. The haplogroup I is typically for the ancient THRACIAN population. Unfortunatelly, some of these people have been culturally assimilated, many of them during communist time, and today they think they are Slavs, while they actually are just Romanians who lost their identity. You forgat to mention that in Bosnia there are still mountans having the name ROMANIA, and that in the entire Balcan there are still many Romanians and Aromanians.
4:54 am on September 6th, 2009
I think there may be some paranoia going on here. Although you guys are predominantly Hap I, you can’t lay claim that this is your Haplogroup as it is mainly found in Croatia/Bosnia.
12:04 pm on September 6th, 2009
mie mi-ar placea sa se dea pedeapsa cu mortea pt traficanti de droguri, pt vanzatorii de droguri si pt cei care incurajeaza consumul de droguri. Si mi-ar placea sa te vad pedepsit pt ca incurajezi consumul de droguri. Asta esti- o jigodie platita sa discrediteze valorile romanilor si sa ii indemne pe romani pe o cale gresita. *** zicea Talmudul? Ca daca vezi un crestin pe marginea prapastiei sa ii faci vant? Exact mentalitatea asta criminala o ai si sper sa fii rasplatit pt ea.
7:19 pm on September 9th, 2009
nu se putea sa nu iti dai arama pe fata. Mi-e scarba de indivizi ca tine. Pune mana pe un manual de economie, ratatule, ca sa vezi ce impact negativ poate avea asupra economiei unei tari reclama proasta facuta de un post de televiziune atat de cunoscut ****** e National Geographic. Evident ca Mircea Badea si Andreea Marin nu pot fi exemple pt tine, eventual niste triburi barbare si canibale venite din Asia iti sunt tie modele, sau niste cozi de topor bolshevice sau neobolshevice.